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kmarty
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Post Started to learn whistle at music school
on: September 4, 2012, 20:03
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Hi,
yesterday I started learn to play whistle at music school. As beginner. At first hour, when we tried cut's, tap's and roll's, we've got a homework - to learn tune "Oh, Those Britches Full Of Stitches".
I have to practice, because this is awful (mainly part "A c#e"): http://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/oh-those-britches-full-of

Only good thing I had, that I at least learned sequence of notes.

EDIT:

Quote from JleoFipple on September 7, 2012 @ soundcloud.com
... can you share your notation @ http://www.my-music-community.net/forum I would like to learn to play this.

Here is:

X:1
T:Oh, Those Britches Full Of Stitches
M:2/4
L:1/8
R:Polka
K:A
A>B cA|BA cA|A>B cA|BA F2|!
A>B cA|BA ce|A>B AF|FE E2:|!
|:e>f ec|BA Bc|e>f ec|BA F2|!
e>f ec|BA Bc|A>B AF|FE E2:|]!
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on: September 11, 2012, 18:38
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Hi again,
I try to continue with this blog like thread πŸ™‚

This week teacher make decision we skip learning cuts & taps and we'll begin to learn tune with rolls (just because roll is cut & tap together).
So homework for this week is reel The Green Mountain. I hope I'll put some recordings later because it seems too hard (and fast) for me.

(Hmm, forum redirects to activity page also in smartphone πŸ™ )

EDIT: My teacher prefers learning by ear, so notation for this tune is not available (BTW. It slightly differs from notations I've found on Internet).
I tried to write it, but ... I don't know notes and notation (incl. ABC notation) so don't laugh me, please. This is whole tune:

T: The Green Mountain
R:reel
M:C|
K:D
A~F3 AFEF|D~F3 ABde|~f3d efdB|Adfd efdB|
A~F3 AFEF|D~F3 ABde|~f3d efdB|1 AFEF D2dB:|2 AFEF D3z||
|:f~a3 bafe|f2af efde|~f3d efdB|Adfd efde|
f~a3 bafe|f2af efde|~f3d efdB| AFEF D3z:|

EDIT3: "Preview" of whole tune: http://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/the-green-mountain
EDIT4: Corrected ABC notation (probably not perfect, but better than previous version).

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on: September 11, 2012, 19:33
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Kmarty, nice playing on the Britches tune very good for such an early recording.

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on: September 28, 2012, 17:37
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Oh, I forgot to say that this week is a tune "Garret Barry's" as a homework. I forgot, because I was busy when I tried to remember this tune. Today is first time when I played it all at once. Here is this tune: http://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/garret-barrys

And ABC sheet:

T:Garret Barry's
R:Jig
L:1/8
M:6/8
K:Dmix
A|: DEF ~G3|AGE c2A|dcA d2e|fed cAG|
~F3 ~G3|~A3 (3Bcd e|dcA GEA|DED D2 A:|
|:dcA d2e|fed ~e3|dcA c2d|(3efg d ecA|
dcA d2e|fed ~e3|dca GEA|DED D2A:|
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on: September 28, 2012, 18:29
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Nice resource with reference recordings, thanks for posting this information πŸ™‚

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on: October 19, 2012, 19:36
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Thank you. I thought that it can be usable for someone, so I just reporting what we learning at school :-).
Anyway, last few weeks I missed to add some tunes here:

The first is the easy one (alternative of first tune, I don't know why we got it now and not earlier): Evan's Polka
http://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/egans-polka

T:Egan's polka
R:Polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
|:BD ED|BD ED|G2 A>B|AG ED|BD ED|BD ED|G2 A>B|AG G2:|
|:Bd BA|AG ED|G2 A>B|AG ED|Bd BA|AG ED|G2 A>B|AG G2:|

(this is version how we play it at lessons)

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on: October 19, 2012, 19:40
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...and tune Harvest Home (my nightmare πŸ™‚ ):
http://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/harvest-home

T:Harvest Home
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: hornpipe
K: Dmaj
|:AF|DAFA DAFA|defe dcBA|e2f2 g2f2|(3efe (3dcB (3ABA (3GFE|
DAFA DAFA|defe dcBA|eAfA gece|d2 f2 d2:|
|:cd|eAAA fAAA|gAfA eAAA|eAfA gAfA|(3efe (3dcB (3ABA (3GFE|
DAFA DAFA|defe dcBA|eAfA gece|d2 f2 d2:|

(it is simpler version than you can find elsewhere. Tripple "AAA"s should be rolls on A. I don't know how to write in ABC, because when I wrote it as "~A" it sounds horrible. And original ABC sheet, which I modified to this version, had these triple "AAA")

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on: October 19, 2012, 21:22
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It sounds like a great challenge and you make it sound very good. Thanks for sharing your musical example and notation πŸ˜€

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on: October 19, 2012, 21:39
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Kmarty, your recording are very well done and a good speed for me to use as reference. Could you make your music files on Sound Cloud so they can down loaded. I would like to keep them for reference when when I practice off-line away from computer.

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on: October 19, 2012, 22:34
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Quote from Whistler on October 19, 2012, 21:39
... Could you make your music files on Sound Cloud so they can down loaded....

Ah, sorry. I missed that option. Now it should be downloadable.

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on: October 19, 2012, 22:46
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Thanks for enabling download, I am now up to date with the audio files and music notation πŸ˜€

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on: November 12, 2012, 14:12
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Last week we got two tunes as a homework. Two, because they are similar and often are played together in one set:

1. Road to Lisdoonvarna http://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/road-to-lisdoonvarna

T: The Road To Lisdoonvarna
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: Edor
D|:E2B B2A B2c d2A|F2A ABA D2E FED|E2B B2A B2c d3 |1cdc B2A B2E E2D:|2cdc B2A B2E E2B|]
 |:e2f gfe d2B Bcd|c2A ABc d2B B3 |e2f gfe d2B Bcd|1cdc B2A B2E E2B:|2cdc B2A B2E E3 |]

2. O'Keefes slide http://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/okeefes-slide

T: O'Keefe's slide
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: Edor
D|:E2B B2A FEF A2F|E2B B2A F2D DEF|E2B B2A FEF A3 |1FEF A2B F2E E2D:|2FEF A2B F2E E2A|]
 |:B2e e2f e2d B2A|B2e e2f e2d B2c|dz2 d2B AFE D2E|1FEF A2B F2E E2A:|2FEF A2B F2E E3 |]

I'm sorry if notation is not accurate. As I said many times before, I don't know notes and these tunes was learned by ear.
I'm also not sure if it is "Edor" nor 12/8.

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on: November 21, 2012, 01:27
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Great job Kmarty you are able to learn very fast, thanks for sharing your music.

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on: November 21, 2012, 18:50
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Errata: Between "E2B" in both tunes should be a tonguing to avoid whining (Shorten "E2" to "E", tongue and/or breath and followed by "B").
But in notation it is "E2B".

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on: November 23, 2012, 17:27
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This week we have got a reel Dunmore Lasses (or Dunmore Lassies?, I don't know):
http://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/dunmore-lasses

T: The Dunmore Lasses
M: C|
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Emin
~E3F ~G3A|Be{g}ed Be{g}ed|~E3F GABG|AcBA GEFD|
~E3F ~G3A|Be{g}ed ez ef|gefd edBG|1AcBA GEFD:|2AcBA Be{g}ef||
|:gz e/f/g fede|Be{g}ed Be{g}ef|gz eg fedB|AcBA Be{g}ef|
gfeg fede|Be{g}ed ez ef|gefd edBG|1AcBA Be{g}ef:|2AcBA GEFD||E4z4|

BTW. This is the first tune I had to write ABC notation as first and then learn it. Because I easily jumped to another part of tune due its same or very similar bars.

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on: December 7, 2012, 19:32
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I'm sorry I'm a bit late.
A week ago we've got a ... a well known slide. But our teacher can't recall name of this tune so I know it only as "Well known slide with unknown name" :-):
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/unknown-slide

T: The Well Known slide (unknown name)
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: D
|:A3  A2F ABA F2E|DFA B2A B2A F2A|dcd a2g f2d B2A|1BcA BAB d3 dcB:|2BcA BAB d4z A|]
|:dcd a2g f2d B2A|BcA BcA B2A F2A|dcd a2g f2d B2A|1BcA BAB d4  zA:|2BcA BAB d4|]

If anyone knows what is name of this tune, please tell me. Thank you.

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... and this week was Ashplant reel.
But there is something ... I really don't know :-/. I have to ask my teacher, so this is just for info. For now.
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/ashplant-reel

T: The Ashplant Reel
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Edor
A|:B~E3 BAGA|BE{D}EF ~G3A|~B3A (3Bcd ef|gedB A2GA:|
|:B2eB fBeB|~B2ed BAGA|(3Bcd ef~g3a|1gedB A2GA:|2gedB A4|]

(I don't know if ABC notation is correct because EasyABC have problem with triplets (it doesn't sound like triplets). So I can't check whether it sounds how it should - I don't know notes, I writing ABC by chance and using EasyABC to replay and this replay I check by ears, not the notes or ABC notation. For ABC corrections, I using abc2midi as "spellchecker" - it prints many warnings like "Warning in line 8 : Bar 5 has 5 units instead of 4" which helps me to fit notes into bars)

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on: December 13, 2012, 22:51
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This week it is a bit earlier because I can't recording until wednesday next week.

This week we've got tune Morrison's Jig:
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/morrisons-jig

T:Morrison's Jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
R:Jig
K:D
D|:~E3 BEB|E{D}EB AFD|~E3 BEB|dcB AFD|
   ~E3 BEB|E{D}EB AFD|~G3 FGA|1BAG FED:|2dAG FGA|
|Bee fee|aee fed|Bee fee|fag fed|
 Bee fee|aee fed|gfe d2 A|BAG FED|
 Bee fee|aee fed|Bee fee|faf def|
g2 g gfe|def g2 d|edc d2 A|BAG FED|E4||
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on: December 15, 2012, 17:49
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Kmarty, thanks for your continued diligence to updating this blog thread it's really great. You've got me interested in EasyABC and one thing I've noticed is that I have to include an X:### field for my Easy ABC to display the music notation for example

T:Morrison's Jig
X:001
M:6/8
L:1/8
R:Jig
K:D
D|:~E3 BEB|E{D}EB AFD|~E3 BEB|dcB AFD|
   ~E3 BEB|E{D}EB AFD|~G3 FGA|1BAG FED:|2dAG FGA|
|Bee fee|aee fed|Bee fee|fag fed|
 Bee fee|aee fed|gfe d2 A|BAG FED|
 Bee fee|aee fed|Bee fee|faf def|
g2 g gfe|def g2 d|edc d2 A|BAG FED|E4||  

Without this X:### field Easy ABC doesn't display the notation, the value of the x:### is not important for display but it must have one. The end user can use the X:### field to catalog his/her tunes πŸ˜€

Some notes I made for clarification regarding Easy ABC notating nomenclature.
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on: December 15, 2012, 18:14
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The "X:" field is mandatory in every application which uses abc file as "playbook" (i.e. it contain more than one tune in abc file).
Everyone can use own numbering so I skipping this field when doing copy&paste here.
The "X:" field should be as first. EasyAbc can help you and if you start writing "X:" it automatically include next number.
For example, in my ABC file is header of this tune:

X:14
T:Morrison's Jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:160
%Q:100
R:Jig
K:D clef=treble+8
...

(I have "clef=treble+8" in "K:" field because it should be played an octave higher)

Rolls: Yes, this "~E3" is roll.

Cuts: No, this "{D}E" is tap (little note is note below). If it was cut, it would be "{A}E". Choose whatever you want, but my teacher (and me too) plays tap here.

Triplets: If it was triplets, it would be written as "(3BAG (3FED" (Note the little "3" above these notes) and this doesn't sound as it should. Triplet is shorter (every note in triplet have 2/3 length of non-triplet note).

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on: December 15, 2012, 18:55
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Thank you for the clarification you would make a good teacher. I typed the code you provided into Easy ABC and I could see the program starting to work for me it's a very nice way to create and work at music very intuitive and like the Title Easy ABC πŸ™‚

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Hehe, I'm a waaay off to be a teacher πŸ™‚

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Morrison's Jig again.

In previous recording (and abc notation too) are some mistakes (actually it is not mistake only by me. Although I did at least one mistake too), my teacher did some ... "inaccuracy"(? - I don't know how to call it) ... but after a week she wanted to play a bit different:
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/morrisons-jig-again

T:Morrison's Jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
R:Jig
K:D
D|:~E3 BEB|E{D}EB AFD|~E3 BEB|dcB AFD|
   ~E3 BEB|E{D}EB AFD|~G3 FGA|1BAG FED:|2BAG FGA|
|Bee fee|aee fed|Bee fee|(3fga g fed|
 Bee fee|aee fed|gfe d2 A|BAG FGA|
 Bee fee|aee fed|Bee fee|faf def|
g2 g gfe|def g2 d|edc d2 A|BAG FED|E2||

Just for interest - When I trying to record a tune, I play it few times and then I trying to choose the best. So it could look like this:
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(the fourth is the "chosen one" here πŸ™‚ )

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Hi,
this week we have a tune: Maggie in the Woods
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/maggie-in-the-woods-slow
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/maggie-in-the-woods

T: Maggie In The Woods
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|:B/A/|GD GA|Be e f/e/|dB B/A/G/A/|BA A B/A/|
       GD GA|Be e f/e/|dB A B/A/  |G2 G:|
    d|g>f ed|Bd e g/e/|dB B/A/G/A/|BA Ad|
      g>f ed|Bd e g/e/|dB AB/A/   |G2 Gd|  
      g>f ed|Bd e g/e/|dB B/A/G/A/|BA A B/A/|
       GD GA|Be e f/e/|dB AB/A/   |G2 Gz|
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Thanks for the update on Morrison's Jig and the new tune Maggie In The Woods. The method you record by is the same as myself. I make many recordings and pick the best πŸ˜€

I like that you included the slow version of Maggie in the woods it also really shows your great progress being able to keep the rhythm/ sound essence of the tune whether it is played fast or slow.

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Maggie in the woods is simple tune, but still can make difficult situations. For me, the part "B/A/G/A/" limits how fast I can play it and also catching the right breath points on whole tune makes me some difficulties.

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A new tune is here πŸ™‚
This week is a hornpipe (the) Rights of Man as a homework:
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/the-rights-of-man

T: The Rights Of Man
R: hornpipe
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Emin
|:GA|B2A2 G2F2|EFGA B2ef|gfed edBd|cBAG A2GA|
     BcAB GAFG|EFGA B2ef|gfed Bgfg|e2 E2 E2:|
|:ga|babg efga|babg egfe|d^cde fefg|afdf a2gf|
     edef gfga|bgaf gfef|gfed Bgfg|e2 E2 E2:|

(this abc is from thesession.org and this tune is probably the first where I did not need write "own" abc)

When practicing B-part, an ear plugs are highly recommended.

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This tune is from last week, but I kept it to this week because this week wasn't a lesson.
Tune of week is: Ballyvourney polka
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/ballyvourney-polka

T: The Ballyvourney polka
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
|:EF/G/ FE|FD FA|EF/G/ FE|F2 FA|
EF/G/ FE|FD FA|B>A B/c/d|1 e2 e2:|2 e2 eB/c/||
|:dA FA|DA FA|c>B GB|A2 AB/c/|dA FA|
DA FA|B>A B/c/d|1 e2 f>e:|2 e2 e2||

(source of abc: thesession.org - sounds same)

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This week we have ... another polka πŸ™‚
Well, here is: Finnish polka
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/finnish-polka

T: The Finnish polka
R: polka
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
K: Bmin
B>c Bc|dB Bd|cA Ac|d/c/B/A/ BF|
B>c Bc|dB B2|ef/e/ dc|1BA BF:|2Bc de||
|:fd df|ec cd|ef/e/ dc|Bc de|
  fd df|ec cd|ef/e/ dc|1B2 de:|2|BA B2||
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Hi,
this week (actually last week, but there wasn't time) we've got a slide: Johnny O'Leary's Slide (or An ChΓ³isir)
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/johnny-olearys-slide

T: Johnny O'Leary's Slide
T: An ChΓ³isir
R: slide
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
Q: 180
K: Bmin
|:BAG|F2B BAB d2e f3|e3 efe c2e a3|
F2B BAB d2e f3|e2d B2A B3:|
|:d2e|fgf efe ded cdc|~B3 edB AFE F2E|
F2B BAB d2e f3|e2d B2A B3:|

(Changed name of tune and rhythm)

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Hello,
tune of week is: the Lilting Banshee
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/the-lilting-banshee

T:The Lilting Banshee
R:jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:Ador clef=treble+8
|:EAA EAA|BAB G2A|Bee edB|dBA GED|EAA EAA|
  BAB G2A|Bee edB|1 dBA A2G:|2 dBA A2d||
|:eaa age|dBA G2A|Bee edB|def ~g3|eaa age|
  dBA G2A|Bee edB|1 dBA A2d:|2 dBA A3||

I don't know how to say, but there is only one roll (~g3), everything else which sounds like roll (moreless πŸ™‚ ), is actually tap&cut (like "reversed" roll). i.e. "Bee edB" is "Be{d}e {a}edB" and "eaa age" is "ea{g}a {c}age".

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This week we have got a slip jig : A fig for a kiss
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/a-fig-for-a-kiss

T: A Fig For A Kiss
R: slip jig
M: 9/8
L: 1/8
K: Edor
F|:G2B E2B BAG|F2A D2A AGF|G2B E2B BAG|1 B/c/dB AGF E2F:|2 B/c/dB AGF E2B||
|:g2e g2e edB|f2d dcd fff|1 gze g2e edB|dBA GBd eaf:|2 gfe fed ezA|B/c/dB AGF E3||

Rests (the "z"'s) are probably not in real notation. First should be perhaps not "gze" but "g2e" and second is probably not "ezA" but "ecA". I heard it always with rests in these places. At "fff" I always heard rolled "f3".

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This week we've got a tune, which is well known to members of "The Compare and Learn Challenge" (actually, I forgot it in the meantime, so I had to learn it again), a jig Saddle the Pony:
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/saddle-the-pony-1

T:Saddle the Pony
R:jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:Gmaj
D|GBA G2B|def gdB|GBA G2B|AFD AFD|GBA G2B|def ~g3|ege dBA|BGG G2:||
d|efe edB|def ~g3|efe edB|dBA ABd|efe edB|def ~g3|ege dBA|BGG G2:||

The part "GG G2" is played as "reversed" roll.

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first of all;
nice thread, its interesting to follow your experiance of learning in a shool with a teacher

second; i noticed that i never made a comment in this thread, actualy no one but jleo did - what a pitty
i can just talk for myself but i do apreciate your sharing, but my problem is i still dont know to read abc tabs πŸ˜‰
but i will learn it and than your thread will be full of nice tunes to learn

last but not least
; your new recording of "saddle the pony" is nice - its maybe the first time that i really liked those cuts (or are it rolls or,...?), i never was a friend of them but here they fit, or its because you know to play them well now? i cant say but i can say that i like it (you should post this recording to the challenge thread as well - if its a new one)
and that makes me remember that i still have to do a recording of it - i never learned the second part πŸ™ but i will, i promise

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first of all;

Thank you πŸ™‚

second; - comments

I don't demand comments, but ... yes, sometime it could be helpful to inform if I should continue πŸ™‚

second; - abc

I'm not good at abc notation too. But tunes can be shareable better on abc than classic notes. I use EasyABC which operates with abc and can show you also classic notes and it can play tunes.
And abc tabs I share because I don't think I play good enough to learn tune just by ear (although all of them I learned it by ear).

last but not least;

I think that cuts, taps, rolls, slides ... are integral part of this kind of music and I'm trying to learn it well (it is a bit long-term challenge to me πŸ™‚ ).
This recording of "Saddle the pony" is new, but I don't post it to the challenge thread. The previous recording belonged to challenge thread and this recording gelongs to this thread.

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yes please continue, i believe this thread is interesting for many visitors
we are (still) a very smal group so comments are (still) rare, even if its interesting

you are right about cuts and co nd maybe i just have to get used to it, or its normal that beginners ornamations are not that much likeable πŸ˜‰
i DO belive its good that you learn and practise them
i am not that far yet πŸ˜‰

oh not to forget, yes i will learn to read abc, i just didnt find the time yet
but when i have learned it i will have a resource of many nice tunes here in your thread

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You don't need to learn ABC notation, there are many applications that could read ABC and show you as classic notes.
Learning ABC is useful only if you want to write in ABC.
Of course, you can read ABC well and read it directly instead of generating classic notes.

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This week we've got a slip jig: The Butterfly:
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/the-butterfly

T:The Butterfly
R:slip jig
M:9/8
L:1/8
K:Emin clef=treble+8
A|:B2E G2E F3|B2E G2E FED|B2E G2E F3|1 B2d d2B AFD:|2 B2d d2B AFA||
|:B2d e2f g3|B2d g2e dBA|B2d e2f g2a|b2a g2e dBA:|
|:B3 B2A G2A|B3 BAB dBA|B3 B2A G2A|B2d g2e dBA:|

(I'm not sure about first "A" - slow example has it, fast example has just "short tap")

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thats beautifull, i can imagine the butterfly flying when i hear that
this is an example where i really like the ornaments, maybe because they fit to the tune so good, or because you finaly become good at it, i cant say
anyway i am impressed that you learn one tune per week, do you remember them all, i mean can you play them all out of memory or forget them quick again?

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(Strange, forum didn't send notification by e-mail)

Maybe it is just an accident. The tune should be played faster and I didn't imagine anything with butterflies. Maybe because I saw this video :-): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFOzHU7otGI#t=112s
I don't have this kind of imagination.

Actually I can learn a tune for less than two days. But next approx five days are critical - I have to play it at least these days otherwise I forget it (I often ends with I can't remember begin of yesterday-learned tune). The more days I play it, the longer I remember it. Fortunately I remember all tunes in this thread yet :-). But it is due to playing them again and again all time than I can remember it forever (which I don't).
Maybe you were surprised how much helps me recording these tunes to post them here - it takes several recordings until I have something what I can place here.

Anyway, next week is here and next tune too πŸ™‚ (BTW. I played it whole just yesterday. As almost all tunes I recorded here)
Tune of this week is: The Rambling Pitchfork
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/the-rambling-pitchfork

T: The Rambling Pitchfork
R:jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:Dmaj
|:E|F2F AFF|dFF AFD|G2G ABc|ded cAG|F2F AFF|dFF AFD|G2G BGB|AFD D2:|
|:A|d2e fed|ecA AFA|d2d efg|faf gfe|d2e fed|ecA AGF|G2G BGB|AFD D2:|
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cant say why, i still think i shouldnt have choiosed mingle and still would love to change to vbulletin or phpbb, but as long as there is so little activity and as long as i am still ill, ... i cant change now

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Maybe it is just an accident. The tune should be played faster and I didn't imagine anything with butterflies. Maybe because I saw this video :-): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFOzHU7otGI#t=112s
I don't have this kind of imagination.

but there ARE butterflies in that video, sweet little green ones πŸ˜‰

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Actually I can learn a tune for less than two days. But next approx five days are critical - I have to play it at least these days otherwise I forget it (I often ends with I can't remember begin of yesterday-learned tune). The more days I play it, the longer I remember it. Fortunately I remember all tunes in this thread yet :-). But it is due to playing them again and again all time than I can remember it forever (which I don't).
Maybe you were surprised how much helps me recording these tunes to post them here - it takes several recordings until I have something what I can place here.

you are fast
in the beginning, one year ago, i did learn very fast, i think, but those were easy tunes
a half year later, i did remember every tune i learned because i did play them all every day
since i started with the guitar again i played first, no whistle at all, than a little bit and now daily again but not that much ... and i learn slow now, maybe because the tunes arfe more difficult, maybe because i learn severa tunes at the same time on 2 instruments, maybe because i am ill ... i nearly dont sleep and when i sleep it has no quality, i am always very tired and cant concentrate ...
anyway, for example greensleeves, i startet in february and play every day and now, finaly, i can play it by memory, without need to look at notation, on whistle and guitar
but i still need time to find out how i want to play it, it just starts n ow that i get a real good feeling for the tune and know between what i need to decide ....
the easy tunes i learned first when i did beginn, i still can play them, but not all by memory, i need to look at notation here and there, and the feeling for the tunes, knowing or feeling where to pronounce it more or less, is gone ... but anyway i have a "matschkopf" as i say in german, "muddhead" in english ... because of my illness

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Anyway, next week is here and next tune too πŸ™‚ (BTW. I played it whole just yesterday. As almost all tunes I recorded here)
Tune of this week is: The Rambling Pitchfork
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/the-rambling-pitchfork

T: The Rambling Pitchfork
R:jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:Dmaj
|:E|F2F AFF|dFF AFD|G2G ABc|ded cAG|F2F AFF|dFF AFD|G2G BGB|AFD D2:|
|:A|d2e fed|ecA AFA|d2d efg|faf gfe|d2e fed|ecA AGF|G2G BGB|AFD D2:|

... oh my i forgot to listen to it ... ill listen and comment later ... see u then

anyway nice to read that recording and postinmg here helps you
it shows that its still good to have this site, even if most of our founders seem to be vasnished (wrote emails to everyone of them several times).... but there will be more one day πŸ˜‰

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About remembering tunes: I can't judge it, but I can't receive tunes (or music at all) in any different way than by ears.
If I got a notes or tablature I can (with a lot of time) read what notes are in, but I can't transfer it on instrument. I simply need to hear it.
My wife used to play piano and she can read notes on the fly. But she can't play by memory.
The same is with one whistle student I know from "intermediate" class (I'm in "beginner" class). She knows read notes on the fly, she can immediately play any tune even she didn't play/hear it before, but she can't play by memory too.

It sounds me like people who play tunes from notes can't play it by memory. Like they didn't know what they playing(?). I just guessing. I can't compare it, because I'm on the other side (no problem to play by memory*, but impossible to play by notes πŸ™‚ ).

*) Moreless. I know people who can play everything although they heard it just once. That's not my case :-).

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I have problem with one thing - to remember the name of tune is often difficult to me. Remember or match name to correct tune.

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Thanks for the updates, very nice job on "Saddle the Pony" very nice with re-verb πŸ˜€

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omg i still cant play saddle the pony, i even have a print of the notation sticked to the wall, in front of me but ... i dont know, that tune and me,.. we need some more time πŸ˜‰

about rememebring and reading notation or playing by ears
i can read "dots" just very slowly one by one, not fluent
i cant play from sheet, just easy tunes, but when i leaqrned to play them by memory, than i cant play by notation anymore, not from tabs, numbers, dots, whatever, once i have a tune in my head, i cant read it anymore while playing ... so maybe i am more one of the "by ear people" but the problem is, i cant play by ear ... yet...just one tune, "brother jakob" i played it in my first weeks without even thinking about ... just like that
but everything else i try to play by ear....wont work, maybe i should practise that more, i give up quickly than

anyway i want to be able to read and play from notation, not only dots, also tabs, abc,...
and i want to be able to play by ear too
i have to learn and practise much more
....now, since i stoped working, cause of my health problems, i have a lot of time, but i cant concentrate for long....thats my problem with all right now
anyway i will keep on making music, i am even thinking about getting a piano as well πŸ˜‰
if i ever become good at any instrument ... who knows, but i know i want to

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2Whistler: Thank you πŸ™‚

2German-Whistler: The best is to know both, by ear and by notes, of course. But it seems I'm not able to learn it play by notes well. So I'm using the only way I can - by ear.

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Yesterday I tried completely new reverb settings (from the opposite side - the reverb is very, very little) and tried to record a reel set.
Unfortunatelly it took about two hours (there was loads of mistakes such as playing different tone than it should and so on - set is unbelievable long to record it w/o mistakes :-)) and it still doesn't sound as I wish so better is to criticize just the reverb settings:
https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/1st-reel-set

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sounds very nice and "natural" to me
good setup

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Hi,
next year is here and I'm continuing to learn play whistle.
This year I am assigned to class with intermediate student (intermediate is meant here like "more than absolute beginner" - there is only two levels, beginners and everyone else). The other student knows some tunes, including tunes for beginners, which I don't so I have to learn them. That's my start of this whistle year.

So first one is Boys of Bluehill: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/boys-of-bluehill

T: Boys of Bluehill
R: hornpipe
L: 1/8
M: 4/4
K: Dmaj
|:FA|BA FA D2 FA|BA (3Bcd e2 de|fa gf eg fe|df ed B2 dB|
    |BA FA D2 FA|BA (3Bcd e2 de|fa gf eg fe|d2 f2 d2:|
|:fg|af df a2 gf|ef ga b2 ag|fa gf eg fe|df ed B2 dB|
    |BA FA D2 FA|BA (3Bcd e2 de|fa gf eg fe|d2 f2 d2:|
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very nice tune
your whistling is becomming better and better
i am far behind you, i did whistle just very little bit since i started with guitars again

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Thank you.
Actually, this is an easy tune (definitely easier than Harvest Home which was my first hornpipe tune) and one of the first when one learning to play whistle.

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easy for you πŸ˜‰
i bet i play worse than 1 year ago and still have to practise the real beginner tunes πŸ˜‰
but when i listen to you, i see where i could be and hopefully will be one day

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I'm a bit late, this tune was last week (I hadn't time to record it).
So, last week was Banshee reel: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/banshee-reel

T: Banshee reel
R: reel
L: 1/8
M: 4/4
K: Gmaj
|:~G3D EDBD|~G3B d2 Bd| eged BAGA|BAGE EDBA|
  G2DG EDBD|~G3B d2 Bd|1eged BAGA|BAGF G2BA:|2~e3d BAGA|BAGF G2Bd||
|:eaag efge|dBBA B2 Bd|e~B3 efgf|eBBA B2 Bd|
  eaag efge|dBBA B2 Bd|eged BAGA|1 BAGF G2 Bd:|2 BAGF G4||
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...and this week is Kesh jig: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/kesh-jig

T: Kesh jig
R: jig
L: 1/8
M: 6/8
K: Gmaj
|:D|~G3 GAB|~A3 ABd|edd gdd|edB dBA|~G3 GAB|~A3 ABd|edd gdB|AGF G2:|
A|:~B3 dBd|ege dBA|~B3 dBG|~A3 AGA|~B3 dBd|ege dBd|~g3 aga|1 bgf g2d:|2 bgf g3||
%alternative repetition of B-part:
%|~B3 dBd|~e3 dBA|~B3 dBG|~A3 AGA|~B3 dBd|ege dBd|~g3 aga|bgf g3|
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did this course start at complete beginner level? its very fast, every week a new tune i think

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You mean when I started this thread (i.e. Sep 2012)? Yes, it started at beginner level.
But tempo (how often a new tunes to be learnt) is based on students tempo. It mostly took a tune per week, but sometimes it has longer period.

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Good news for you Andreas - since last week I'll post new tunes with longer interval. It is because I started to learn to play flute so one week is whistle learning, second week is flute learning.
But now it is "whistle" week, so here is tune Silver Spear : https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/silver-spear

T: Silver Spear
R: reel
L: 1/8
M: 4/4
K: Dmaj
|:FAAA BAFA|dfed BcdA|FAAA BAFA|dfed B2AG|
  FAAA BAFA|dfed B/c/def|~g3e ~f3e|1 dfed B2AG:|2 dfed Bcde||
|:faaa bfaf|gfed B/c/deg|faaa bfaf|gfed B2Ad|
  faaa bfaf|gfed B/c/def|~g3e ~f3e|1 dfed Bcde:|2 dfed B2A2||
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very nice
i start to like your ornamentation, sounds like a "butterfly`s flight look"
maybe its not that i dont like ornamentation, maybe i just dont like beginners ornamentation, and you are advanced enough now for make it sound nice

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This week (...uh, rather month πŸ™‚ ) we got a tune on special request one of student. This tune is probably the hardest I've learn (actually, it could be due to it is probably first tune I've learn only from ABC notation).
The High Reel: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/the-high-reel

T:The High Reel
T:Sandy Duff
T:Duffy the Dancer
R:reel
H:Originally Scottish
M:C|
K:Amix
|:a2fa eA~A2|cAeA fAeA|a2fa eA~A2|Bcdc BG~G2|
  a2fa eA~A2|(3Bcd ef g2fg|afge fdec|Bcdc BG~G2:|
|:(3cBA eA fAeA|(3cBA af ecAB|(3cBA eA fAec|Bcdc BG~G2|
  (3cBA eA fAeA|(3Bcd ef g2fg|afge fdec|Bcdc BG~G2:|
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Hi,
this week is another tune requested by some other student. Actually, it is not a traditional tune, but ... πŸ™‚
Arianna's Tower: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/ariannas-tower

T: Arianna's Tower
R: reel
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Ador
|:e2AB cBAB|E2ED EFGE|Aeed e2dc|B2BA GABG|
 eA~A2 cBAB|E2ED EFGE|AEcE BAGB|A2AG ABcd:|
|:eaag edcd|eggf g3e|aece ABcA|Bgge d2cd|
  e2ag edcd|B2gf g3e|aecA f2ed|cAAG ABcd:|

Original version has last third bar as "B2gf g3^g".

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I tried to make flute recording: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/ariannas-tower-flute

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Last month I mainly practice to play flute (although results is probably imperceptible), but because a long time we didn't get any new tune, I choose one tune which I often heard at sessions here in Prague. The tune is:
The Road to Errogie: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/the-road-to-errogie

T: The Road To Errogie
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
DGG2 AGAB|dGG2 ABdB|e3g dBG2 |AGAB AGEG|
DGG2 AGAB|dGG2 ABdB|e3g dBG2 |A3B G4:|
dgg2 g2ag|ab2a g3d |e2dg2de2-|edgd edBc|
dgg2 g2ag|ab2a g3d |e3g dBG2 |AGAB G4|
dgg2 g2ag|ab2a g3d |e2dg2de2-|edgd edBA|
DGG2 AGAB|dGG2 ABdB|e3g dBG2 |A3B G4|

The "e2dg2de2-" part is hard to me due its timing. I don't remember if I ever learned tune with metronome. If not, this is first.

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Hi,
tune of month (:-)) is:
Cooley's reel: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/cooleys-reel

T: Cooley's Reel
R: reel
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Edor
 D|EBBA B2EB|B2AB dBAG|FDAD BDAG|F2FA dAFD|
   EBBA B2EB|B2AB defg|afef dBAF|DEFD E3D|
   EBBA B2EB|B2AB dBAG|F2FA BFAG|FF2A dAFD|
   EBBA B2EB|B2AB defg|aff2 dBAF|DEFD E3z|
gf|eBB2 eBgf|eBBf gedB|A2FA DAFA|A2FA defg|
   eBB2 efgf|eBB2 defg|afef dBAF|DEFD E2gf|
   eBB2 gg2f|eBB2 gedB|A2FA DAFA|A2FA defg|
   eBB2 efgf|eBBe defg|afef dBAF|DEFD E3|

This version is slightly modified, but I like it.

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Hi,
I'm not sure if I should continue :-/. I mean if there's still somebody who read it.
Anyway, here is tune:
Out On the Ocean: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/out-on-the-ocean

T:Out on the Ocean
R:jig
M:6/8
K:G
|:D2B BAG|BdB A2B|GED G2A|B2B AGE|D2B BAG|BdB A2B|GED G2A|1 AGF G2E:|2 AGF GBd||
|:e2e edB|ege edB|deB def|gfe dBA|G2A B2d|e2e dBA|GED G2A|1 AGF GBd:|2 AGF G3 ||
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I still read... and listen ... and i hope i am not the only one
there isnt much i can say about your whistling, cause mine didnt develeop at all ( i play very few times)
but i think you have got a nice and interesting collection of tunes here and an inspiration for others who want to learn

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Ok, I'll continue then πŸ™‚

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I'm sorry I didn't post it earlier, but I have a bad news (quite old news). The music school I visited was closed for school year 2014/2015 due to low participation (we were just three students on whole school, each on different level).
I'm trying to learn itself now, of course, but at this moment I'm struggling with embouchure so no recordings yet.

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THats sad! But i am sure you will still make good progress even if you have to studdy alone now.

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Learning tunes is not problem.
But I was sick about a month and couldn't play flute and now I have feeling like I lost a half year of training and I can't find what I'm doing wrong with embouchure. So I'm trying to find out a good tone than learning new tunes.

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OK, some tunes here:
Sliabh Russell jig: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/sliabh-russell

T: Sliabh Russel's
R: jig
M: 6/8
K: Ador
|:eAA Bcd|eaf ged|edB ccA|BAG Bcd|eAA Bcd|eaf ged|edB cBA|BAG A3:|
|:eaa efg|agf ged|eaa efg|fed ggg|eaa efg|agf ged|edB cBA|BAG A3:|

Jim Ward's jig: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/jim-wards

T: Jim Ward's
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|: G3 GAB | AGE GED | GGG AGE |GED DEF | G3 GAB | AGE GAB |cBA BGE |1 DED DEF:|2 DED D2B||
|:cBA BAG | ABA AGB | cBA BGE |DED GAB |cBA BAG | ABA ABc |dcB AGE |1 GED D2B :|2 GED DEF || G6|

and Wedding reel: https://soundcloud.com/kmartycz/wedding-reel
(sorry, no ABC)

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